Comments on: Response to 10 reasons why I use PHP http://www.skitoy.com/p/response-to-10-reasons-why-i-use-php/90 Appeal to greatness not guilt Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Ryan Kennedy http://www.skitoy.com/p/response-to-10-reasons-why-i-use-php/90/comment-page-1#comment-2291 Ryan Kennedy Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:11:51 +0000 http://www.skitoy.com/?p=90#comment-2291 Reason #11: Because that's what my company uses. When I was in college, I wrote in Java because the classes were taught in Java. When I got out of college, I wrote in Java because my first several companies all used Java. When you spend 8+ hours a day writing in one language, I think it becomes second nature. Reason #11: Because that’s what my company uses. When I was in college, I wrote in Java because the classes were taught in Java. When I got out of college, I wrote in Java because my first several companies all used Java. When you spend 8+ hours a day writing in one language, I think it becomes second nature.

]]> By: koblas http://www.skitoy.com/p/response-to-10-reasons-why-i-use-php/90/comment-page-1#comment-2290 koblas Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:43:46 +0000 http://www.skitoy.com/?p=90#comment-2290 For background, I write PHP 7 days a week... Ok, maybe only 5 with some random weekend work. I've written everything from PDP-10 Assembler (so I wrote far more 6502 assembler than PDP-10) to C and Java (along with PHP). I just find it amusing to read why people like languages... I've got a lot of issues with PHP, though it's suffers from the ability to make horrible code (not as bad as perl) but not great. Point # 9 -- Database access -- It's a baseline assumption with a language that is intended to be used to build websites. For background, I write PHP 7 days a week… Ok, maybe only 5 with some random weekend work. I’ve written everything from PDP-10 Assembler (so I wrote far more 6502 assembler than PDP-10) to C and Java (along with PHP).

I just find it amusing to read why people like languages… I’ve got a lot of issues with PHP, though it’s suffers from the ability to make horrible code (not as bad as perl) but not great.

Point # 9 — Database access — It’s a baseline assumption with a language that is intended to be used to build websites.

]]> By: krillz http://www.skitoy.com/p/response-to-10-reasons-why-i-use-php/90/comment-page-1#comment-2289 krillz Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:58:35 +0000 http://www.skitoy.com/?p=90#comment-2289 Sure, those points apply to most languages out there, and yes there are better languages for different jobs, it's not like only php coding is on my mind. For some tasks python, c or java seems like a better option. Easy, there are a lot of other languages that are easy to learn, yeah I know, but that doesn't make that point any less valid, just a statement which I think most php coders agree with, it was damn easy to learn compared to other languages, less to think about compared to c for example. this was a list of why I like PHP, not a compare it to another language. And this list was more of why _I_ use PHP and nothing with me wanting to portray it as why you should learn it right away. Funny thing that people react in this way, like I stepped on someones toes by just mentioning PHP. Build in libraries, my point with this was that you do not have to code certain functions to perform various web-tasks, as they most likely already exist. And I agree on the point that it's a nightmare to get two libraries working with each other. PHP is portable, well if you read what I wrote under that headline, I wrote "will usually work with no hassle" I didn't write will certainly work with no hassle. Depends on the code indeed. The OOP in PHP isn't near complete, and the word strong I admit was a bad word to use there, however when writing it I more thought of php4 compared to php5. Comparing it against a real OOP language it lacks a lot. 9,10 still valid points, no lie here. That Perl or any other language had that way before PHP did, great. However what does that have to do with the list? Did you get offended by PHP implementing the same? I mean again feels like by writing about PHP i stepped on your toes. So a part from 2 comments that were good, 3&8 I don't see why the other ones would have anything to do with the points not being valid? Anyway I take any criticism as good feedback, always good to see other peoples point of view. cheers! Krystian. Sure, those points apply to most languages out there, and yes there are better languages for different jobs, it’s not like only php coding is on my mind.
For some tasks python, c or java seems like a better option.

Easy, there are a lot of other languages that are easy to learn, yeah I know, but that doesn’t make that point any less valid, just a statement which I think most php coders agree with, it was damn easy to learn compared to other languages, less to think about compared to c for example.
this was a list of why I like PHP, not a compare it to another language.

And this list was more of why _I_ use PHP and nothing with me wanting to portray it as why you should learn it right away.
Funny thing that people react in this way, like I stepped on someones toes by just mentioning PHP.

Build in libraries, my point with this was that you do not have to code certain functions to perform various web-tasks, as they most likely already exist. And I agree on the point that it’s a nightmare to get two libraries working with each other.

PHP is portable, well if you read what I wrote under that headline, I wrote “will usually work with no hassle” I didn’t write will certainly work with no hassle.
Depends on the code indeed.

The OOP in PHP isn’t near complete, and the word strong I admit was a bad word to use there, however when writing it I more thought of php4 compared to php5. Comparing it against a real OOP language it lacks a lot.

9,10 still valid points, no lie here.
That Perl or any other language had that way before PHP did, great.
However what does that have to do with the list?
Did you get offended by PHP implementing the same?
I mean again feels like by writing about PHP i stepped on your toes.

So a part from 2 comments that were good, 3&8 I don’t see why the other ones would have anything to do with the points not being valid?
Anyway I take any criticism as good feedback, always good to see other peoples point of view.

cheers!
Krystian.

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